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Director Cliff Bole on DS9 and Voyager, Working with Avery Brooks and Kate Mulgrew

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By GustavoLeao / 06:28, 27 January 2012 / Deep Space Nine

StarTrek.com posted a new 2-part interview with director Cliff Bole, who directed episodes of the various Star Trek series, and here is an excerpt.

You directed seven episodes of DS9. Your first one was “Dramatis Personae,” the 18th episode of the first season. Why did you get such a late start on directing DS9?

Bole: Mr. Piller and I were not in sync. He thought I was a studio man and not creative, and I’d keep telling him, “Go back and look at ‘The Best of Both Worlds.’” He said, “Well, you don’t work late.” I said, “I do my best not to because I don’t want to burn out the crew or my actors and, by the way, I know what I’m doing and I come in prepared.” I was trained as a script clerk and an assistant. I’m a set rat, and have been on sets my whole life. When I was a kid I lived in the San Fernando Valley, and on Saturdays we’d go sneak onto all the back lots, roll around and watch what they were doing. So all that added up to I was very, very prepared. I’d had a couple of directors that I’d worked with over the years that I admired – John Huston and people like that – and I picked up a lot of experience. Michael Piller thought just because I wasn’t there for 14 and 15 hours a day that I was ducking creativity. 

You obviously proved something to him because you returned for another half-dozen episodes…

Bole: Yeah. So, it was a fight. I mean, God bless him. I didn’t know for quite a while that he had passed on. But we had our lunches; let’s put it that way. 

Let’s throw the rest of the titles your way: “Cardassians” “The Collaborator,” “Equilibrium,” “Defiant,” “Explorers” and “Facets.”

Bole: We went back to the Trill homeworld in “Equilibrium.” We had a marvelous production designer, Herman Zimmerman. He’s an excellent, talented guy who does a lot with a little. Terry Farrell gave a very good performance. She always asked for me, which I always appreciated. “Defiant” was the one with Jonathan Frakes playing Riker’s brother. Nothing stands out as out of the ordinary about doing that show, except working with Frakes again, and he brought a little joy to the set. I’d worked with Avery (Brooks) on Spencer for Hire and I knew Avery very well. He’s a very dark, difficult guy to work with, but I’d broken that ice back in Boston (on location, shooting Spencer for Hire). And I didn’t come in cold on DS9. I’d been reading the scripts and paying attention to what was going on.  

Your last episode of DS9 was “Facets.” What do you remember of that one?

Bole: It’s not fair of me to make a comment on it because… Deep Space Nine is a little foggier for me because it wasn’t as cheerful for me as working on TNG. TNG was, as far as I’m concerned, the biggest joy and ensemble I’ve ever worked with.  

You directed 10 Voyager episodes. Who brought you back into the fold for Voyager?

Bole: Rick (Berman). 

How different an experience was Voyager versus TNG or DS9?

Bole: Voyager was more towards the fun ensemble (of TNG). It was a great group of people and they had a lot of fun doing it. When that’s going on, your job as a director is half done. You come in with a plan and you’re dealing with people that are upbeat and smiling. It was stepping back into a lighter day compared to Deep Space Nine. 

How did you get on with Kate Mulgrew?

Bole: She’s a fun gal. She’s very opinionated, and I love that in an actor. I love when they bring something to the table. Tim Russ was excellent.

The full interview is here and here.



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By: Muldfeld (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:44:46 on Jan 30, 2012 | Edit History (1)

I was a bit shocked to hear that Bole felt the set was happier on TNG and even Voyager than DS9, especially since Ron Moore presents a very different view that the DS9 cast and writers were a happy bunch (I recall the numerous times Chakotay rightly complained publicly), but he didn't direct all that many episodes.

I wish he had elaborated on what he thought of Avery Brooks; he seems to have found him a difficult actor, but his performance was great. Ditto the rest of the cast. I guess what another poster said about a happy set not equally great art could be true.

I'd have been interested to hear about Bole's work on the comedy X-Files episodes "Small Potatoes" and "Bad Blood" and how that came about.


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By: VoR (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:15:12 on Jan 27, 2012 | Edit History (1)

I remember reading an article in the late 90s in the St.Pete times where a reporter visited both sets while DS9 and Voyager were in production. The line from the article that sticks with me is that it was more enjoyable to be on the DS9 set because, "Those people actually seem to like each other."




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By: Terry212 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 09:13:33 on Jan 27, 2012

Huh, it's sort of interesting to hear about DS9. I never got a complete bead on Avery Brooks. It's surprising that the found the cast or job in general to be dark or gloomy. That said, DS9's work product was SOOOO much better (and, admittedly, darker) than the very end of TNG's run and almost all of Voyager....so...whatever works.

I have to say, though, that 100% of the comments about TNG's cast and the filming experience seem to be the same: that it was a lot of laughing and family feeling, etc., and that the only people who didn't react well to it were guest directors who expected a very professional (serious) set.

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