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By: cdydatzigs (Odo's file, contact) @ 15:59:20 on Sep 05, 2010

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Gene Roddenberry literally wanted it to look like a Hyatt Regency Hotel literally and there was a point there was no captain’s chair. Everyone was going to sit around a conference table ... that would be deadly dull and the director of the pilot put his foot down and they went back to having a captain’s chair.

In case some of you were curious as to what this would have looked like:



This is a production drawing dated "December 1986".

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By: prometheus 59650 (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 17:13:00 on Sep 04, 2010

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Insurrection might or might not have appealed to everyone,but it wasn't even the sort of film that would generally cause people to suddenly give up on TNG entirely.

I'm sorry. Feel free to like it. I just don't understand how anyone can. It was catastrphically bad.

Insurrection- Terrible and soured many people on the TNG cast in film. This is part of what led to a bad opening for Nemesis. Nemesis wasn't a whole lot better and once word got out that not only was it not that great, it was just a scene for scene rip on TWOK box office fell off a cliff.

And the Redlettermedia commentary was on the nose when they pointed out THE problem with all the TNG films: completely reworking the TNG formula to turn these people into action stars when they never were before and were never meant to be.

Knowing what I know now I would have accepted Generations as a series finale if it meant they would have held All Good things back and made THAT the first film.

It's simply better than anything they put on the big screen.

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By: timmer33 (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:31:47 on Sep 04, 2010

You are all discounting the terrible film that preceded this one, INSURRECTION. It was the worst of all the Treks (IMHO). It's for that reason that the audience didn't come see NEM. Sure, there was tension on set, and NEM wasn't a great film. But that doesn't explain why the audience wasn't there on opening weekend.

The fact is, INS soured people on Trek, and no one was interested in yet another Next Gen film.

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By: IamKirok!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:22:50 on Sep 04, 2010

I always felt the performances were kinda stiff and uninteresting in Nemesis. I'm sure this jerk made coming in every day a nightmare.

To hire someone who doesn't even LIKE the show in the first place, or understand what makes it tick, is...illogical.

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By: IamKirok!!! (Odo's file, contact) @ 10:22:25 on Sep 04, 2010

I always felt the performances were kinda stiff and uninteresting in Nemesis. I'm sure this jerk made coming in every day a nightmare.

To hire someone who doesn't even LIKE the show in the first place, or understand what makes it tick, is...illogical.

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By: Bondo (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 01:52:58 on Sep 04, 2010

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•On TNG Enterprise D design "Gene Roddenberry literally wanted it to look like a Hyatt Regency Hotel literally and there was a point there was no captain’s chair…everyone was going to sit around a conference table…that would be deadly dull and the director of the pilot put his foot down and they went back to having a captain’s chair"

Holy crap. I can't even imagine how stupid, exactly, this would be. Thank you Corey Allen. Everyone owes you a debt of gratitude.

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By: Stag (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:45:47 on Sep 03, 2010

You know, many people have blamed many things for the failure of Nemesis - Berman, Braga, Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner, the script, TREK fatigue...you name it

The more time goes by, the more I really believe Baird was the reason this movie left a brown steaming pile at the local cinema. He didn't pay attention to actor input, didn't respect the TREK lore and apparently an ass on the set.

Maybe it was Baird after all, or a combination of things. However, Nemesis and ST5 are two TREK movies that had ALOT of potential to be good, if not great movies, IF they were executed correctly.

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By: Stag (Odo's file, contact) @ 21:45:37 on Sep 03, 2010 | (1)

Ugh double post - sorry

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