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By: BeyondtheTech (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 14:32:49 on Dec 09, 2009

I had to confirm it by Googling and found (http://tv.yahoo.com/enterprise/show/30255), but the "Enterprise" TV series took place 100 years before James T. Kirk became Captain of the Enterprise.

Even as an Admiral according to the new Star Trek movie, Archer would have to have been 135-145 years old.

I like the nod, but that part of the movie didn't make any sense, and Porthos the dog would never outlast his owner.

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What a big Porthos fan like my would have liked to see.... | Report this post to moderator
By: OV-101 (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:33:30 on Dec 09, 2009

Would have been great to see Scotty had discovered the location of Porthos and that he was alive and well. He retrieves the prize beagle and returns him home (maybe a very elderly Adm Archer or ancestor). It does not need to be a long scene and it no words even have to be spoken. For me as a dog lover my heart would have melted with a scene like that.

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Cameo, or plot-critical? | Report this post to moderator
By: Cpt. Insano (Odo's file, contact) @ 08:22:48 on Dec 08, 2009 | (2)

I think, given the verbal cameo in XI, that the plot of XII can hinge around The Search For Porthos, and that's how Archer can be critical to bridge the movie, because when they find Porthos, the poor dog's been assimilated by a not-borg race of life-size amoeba viruses that absorbed the dog's consciousness and set them on the warpath to Earth for abandoning the dog to such a cruel transporter experiment.

So the crew have to find and rescue Archer, institutionalised after the loss of his dog and a nervous breakdown, who must then convince the approaching gelatinous planet eating space mass imprinted with the dog's consciousness, not to eat Earth.

Archer then saves the day by stealing a space suit, going out in a space walk, and then holding a ball up at the space blob Porthos. With a tear in his eye, Archer says "One last fetch, boy!", and throws the ball* into the Sun.

* it's got thrusters so it doesn't take years.

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Archer, Shatner | Report this post to moderator
By: Sherlock (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:49:11 on Dec 08, 2009

Getting Archer in for a cameo would be allright. I dont think most of the new generation will really care either way, and it's an easy nod to the 4 or 5 people in the world that could actually stomach Enterprise :)

People keep saying you cant't get Kirk Prime into the story, but I'm not sure that's such a big deal. You could have an easy cameo with "Q" for example. It could be a "Tapestry" like experience where Kirk Prime sees what his life could have been.You could toss in a TNG reference by Q for those fans. You have to do something about Shatners appearance to make this work.

I agree that these types of appearances should be really short and not distract from the main plot. It's time for the new generation to drive things, and just have these cameos as thoughtful acknowledgments to the loyal fans who stuck with Trek all these years.

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cool, cameos! | Report this post to moderator
By: Orion Pimpdaddy (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:04:56 on Dec 07, 2009

Why not just have a Star Trek variety hour hosted by all the former actors? The DS9 dancing girls led by Major Kira would be a hit.

Seriously though, I think the franchise is turning into a joke.

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why turn star Trek into a "circus" | Report this post to moderator
By: rnsierra (Odo's file, contact) @ 14:23:26 on Dec 07, 2009

for a moment I thought this was going to be a new experience,but it seem clear to me is becoming a
circus arena.every body want to be in ST.XII

How about a Klingon movie? like some us we are tire of watching Spock,Kirk kiddie adventure stuff.get real please..
i see it now J.J. Klingon version in the next movie with
barbies bee high hair.sweet Jesus!!!

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I agree | Report this post to moderator
By: zak (Odo's file, contact) @ 05:47:52 on Dec 07, 2009

Much as I like Shatner, his character did indeed die; and it would have to be beyond clever to have him in any new ST film and not feel his presence wasn't contrived.
Bakula did a great job as Archer (whether or not one liked Enterprise)... I'd l0ve to see him in STXII.

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Now I'd pay for that | Report this post to moderator
By: Cpt. Insano (Odo's file, contact) @ 04:03:47 on Dec 07, 2009 | (1)

I'd pay for Bakula to be in the next movie just to rub it into Shatner, after all the public negotiating for position in the first one and losing out due to ego.

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