The only reason there is a big stink over whether or not Shatner is going to be in this film, is because Nimoy is in it! If this were another 24th century adventure? There would be no Shatner "uprising". If this film were EXACTLY as planned, minus Nimoy making a cameo as an elderly Spock? Again, noone would mention Shatner being in this. People would just be fighting over whether they cast the young Kirk correctly.
Nimoy is playing a Vulcan who is still alive in the 24th century. If Kirk had survived Veridian III and returned to his timeline on the Enterprise-B? He'd still be alive granted, but in the year 2307... along with Sulu, Uhura, Chekov and a younger (read: 1990's) Spock. Putting him in this film considering how the actors have aged, and existing canon? Not a good idea.
So, will portions of this movie take place post generations since Kirk will indeed be dead, and there will be no need for Shatner anyway. I'm thrilled at this idea, and Im so happy we have Nimoy to once again portray Spock on the big screen!
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I am sad that Bill Shatner is not in the movie, but like I said before, I have no interest in this movie. -- Gustavo
It is funny to me that people who "have no interest" in this film or "will not see it" or say that "this movie WILL fail if Shatner is not in it" -- seem to be the ones who are posting on these threads the most!
J.J. Abrams is smart. He knows that it's in his best interest to cater to the fans -- TO A POINT. Catering to every die-hard Trekkie's demand can lead to disaster, especially when their wants and needs are often times selfish and not in the best intrest of the LONG-TERM health of the franchise.
Star Trek needed two things by 2005.. time off and a return to something truly fresh. The days of repackaging the same tired storylines, characters and sets with new titles and special effects (See: Insurrection, Nemesis, and Enterprise) are over.
You need young, fresh-faced actors and a sense of honor to the original series (plural) that came before it. I am begging you J.J., PLEASE don't cave in to all these retarded "valentines" that a few diehard fans want so bad. (See: Throwing Shatner in this film as a ressurected elderly 153 year-old Kirk). Make this film, make it your own, and let's hope this is the adrenalene shot the franchise has desperately needed for the last decade.
As far as I'm concerned they need to fill a few gaps in the canon department regarding kirk's demise, or is everyone forgetting the HUGE hole that an episode of TNG contradicts the events of Generations:
"The Enterprise? I should've known! I bet you Jim Kirk himself brought the old gal out of mothballs..."
- scotty
How do you get people talking about a tired movie franchise? Tell the fans of said franchise that their "icon" will not be in the film. Then, have him publicly "pout" about it.
We are all being had, my friends. Whether he ends up in the film or not (and I do think he will be in there in a small role, and it will be a complete surprise to the audience, generating even more hype) this is a publicity stunt orchestrated to make us talk up the film even more.
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I still believe there is some truth to the "time travel rumors" posted at AICN.
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I am sad that Bill Shatner is not in the movie, but like I said before, I have no interest in this movie.
Gustavo
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"The actor figures the movie forces have solved the problem of dealing with the aging version of his iconic character, James T. Kirk, by having a 'dead Kirk.'"
Cmdr. Murdock: "Lieutenant, how would you handle this?"
Lt. Pervis: "We could try ignoring it, sir."
Patience, Bill. The "movie forces" have had a dead Kirk since 1994.
And now for something completely different...
Actor Malcolm McDowell, who played homicidalsonofabitch Soran in Generations, will host a special tribute to William Shatner at the Jules Verne Adventure Film Festival, where Shat will be presented with a Lifetime Achievement Award. December 9th, at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles.
Catch Biography "William Shatner" on A&E this Saturday, Sept. 15 at 8am/7C.
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