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Jonathan Frakes and Marina Sirtis Talk End of ENTERPRISE

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By GustavoLeao / 19:23, 10 April 2005 / Enterprise

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The latest issue of TV Guide, a tribute to the ending of STAR TREK: ENTERPRISE with four different covers, features an exclusive interview with TNG actors Jonathan Frakes (Riker) and Marina Sirtis (Troi), in which they talk to journalist Michael Logan about their return to the STAR TREK franchise and their roles in the final episode, "These Are The Voyages...".Here are a few excerpts :

Did you two ever think you'd be back in Starfleet uniforms?

Marina Sirtis: Certainly not after the box-office response to STAR TREK NEMESIS! I'm glad I still fit in mine, but I don't know why they gave me that. [She points to an extremely padded bra hanging with her suit.] Padding I don't need. But I do need some help in the antigravity department! [Laughs] Did you know Jonathan is in better shape than he was in STAR TREK NEMESIS? They had to take in his costume!

Jonathan Frakes: Only in my ass. Like, what's with that? I'm turning into Brent Spiner. Have you ever seen Brent's ass? He ain't got one!

Sirtis: It's true! During NEXT GENERATION the cast used to have a contest - the search for Brent's ass!

What are your thoughts on the ENTERPRISE finale?

Sirtis: I was surprised when they said this was the last episode of the series.

Frakes: I was surprised when they said this was the last episode of ENTERPRISE and that we could be in it. It's not our show! But I love it. It's a real STAR TREK script.

Sirtis: They wouldn't give me the whole script because they thought I'd post it on the Internet. Rick Berman just told me the idea. He didn't even tell me Jonathan was in it.

Frakes: Really? That's the first thing Rick said to me. "It's going to be you and Marina...is that OK?"

Sirtis: You mean I'm here with your permission? I guess Patrick Stewart was too busy...[Laughs] I get no respect around here, and with good reason. When Rick called to offer me the job, he didn't tell me it was a secret, so the first thing I did was post the news on my website. When I got home that day, my phone was red with all the messages from people at Paramount screaming, "What the hell are you doing?!" I'm like, why didn't you tell me it was a secret? I blabbed when Brent agreed to do his three-parter on ENTERPRISE. It's not like I'm some new actress they've never met before. They know that I'm "The Mouth."

Are you surprised Troi and Riker come aboard ENTERPRISE without the use of time travel?

Frakes: Yeah. I just hope the audience understands what's going on = that this is picking up on one of our NEXT GENERATION episodes.

Sirtis: Oh, the viewers are verrrry smart. Wait a minute... this is connected to one of our episodes? Really? Which one?

Frakes: "The Pegasus." It was like first, second, third season...

Uh, actually it was the seventh season.

Sirtis: What's weird about this ENTERPRISE episode is that Troi and Riker got married in NEMESIS but now we have to go back to before they were even dating. It's set around the time when they were fighting the relationship, rather than giving in to it.

Frakes: It is strange. As I read the script, I kept having to remind myself that NEMESIS hadn't happened yet. When this takes place, you were going out with Worf at the time.

Don't you think it's weird that you guys are such a big part of the Enterprise finale? There seem to be some hurt feelings around here.

Sirtis: They don't have a great last scene like we did on the NEXT GENERATION finale. We had that poker scene where we all said goodbye. That was a real farewell.

Frakes: I think the ENTERPRISE ending is really nice for Scott Bakula. Archer is deified in this script. He's put right up there with Kirk and Picard. I like it.

Sirtis: It's like the actors each get their goodbye scenes with [Riker] instead of with each other. They individually come to see him, and he does his little bonding and counseling thing, which makes no damn sense because Troi is the counselor! But I'm not bitter or anything.

Frakes: Remember how emotional our last scene was on NEXT GENERATION?

Sirtis: Dorny was weeping like a baby, despite the fact that we were starting a STAR TREK movie in three days. I don't know these ENTERPRISE actors that well. I know some of the boys from running into them at conventions, but I think they're a little disappointed that the series is not running its course.

Frakes: More than disappointed.

Sirtis: Except they're still really young. They're now at the age we were when we started NEXT GENERATION.

But will you ever play these characters again?

Sirtis: Oh, yes! Absolutely we will!

Frakes: You mean you haven't heard?

Sirtis: Jonathan and I are planning our own sitcom.

Frakes: It's called The Rikers in Space. We'll be kinda like Ozzie and Harriet.

Sirtis: Only we'll live with our wacky Uncle Data and our dog Worf.

Frakes: It's gonna run for years!

The full interview can be found here.

Thanks to 'MvRojo' for the tip.



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nonsensical ending | Report this post to moderator
By: psp1 (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:39:43 on Apr 11, 2005

This is sort of like TNG trying to bring back Kirk for their series finale. It makes no sense.
Berman, the perpetual loser and the guy with no vision left for the franchise, has to put his final nail into an improving show. The most creative idea he is able to muster is to bring back these two sad sack actors for a finale for Captain Archer and his crew.
How the mighty franchise has fallen- grubbing for ratings by bringing back two poor actors.


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ENT-D for ENT series finale? | Report this post to moderator
By: Capricorn Two (Odo's file, contact) @ 17:05:19 on Apr 11, 2005

With all the news and rumors: will we see the ENT-D exterior in ENT's series finale?

Has that been announced? Will they use the ENT-D ext. footage from the TNG 'Pegasus' episode to establish this new TNG footage?

Curious.


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Who else | Report this post to moderator
By: what_a_trip (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 14:09:51 on Apr 11, 2005

besides me is going to try to buy all 4 copies? :(

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Beyond the rim of star-light, my love is wand'ring in star-flight/ I know he'll find in star-clustered reaches/ Love, strange love a star woman teaches/ I know his journey ends never/ His star trek will go on forever/ but tell him while he wanders his starry sea, remember, remember me.


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RE: Who else by fx7 @ 14:38:24 on Apr 11

Geeze... | Report this post to moderator
By: TheKJB (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:49:24 on Apr 11, 2005

The Enterprise finale and the featured interview is with Frakes and Sirtis. The "Riker's in Space" sitcom?
KILL.... ME...... NOW.......

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What's with all the past cast members on the covers??????? | Report this post to moderator
By: cooper2000 (Odo's file, contact) @ 12:31:12 on Apr 11, 2005


My question is, why are all of the cast members from past Trek shows on the covers? What a cheat. This is their finale. I am guessing they think fans of good Trek would buy these if their old favorites were on there


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I was surprised when they said...that we could be in it | Report this post to moderator
By: Beckett (Odo's file, contact, web site) @ 10:46:03 on Apr 11, 2005

?!?!!!

We're ready for a USS Titan series whenever you guys are!!!

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Nemesis had all the right buttons there waiting to be pressed, but like Data on a Reman keypad Paramount seem to have pushed the wrong ones. :/


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Oh, snap! OF COURSE! | Report this post to moderator
By: the fan with no name (Odo's file, contact) @ 07:16:39 on Apr 11, 2005

This ties into "Pegasus" they say. How? you ask.

Take a look at the pictures from the other board. What do you think that is that Shran is holding? It's a cloaking device.

In Pegasus Picard mentions that the Federation gave up the right to cloaking technology as part of the 'Treaty of somethingorother'. Well, the Treaty of Somethingorother is either going to be the treaty that founds the Federation or immediately precedes it.

My guess is that we are going to find out that the Romulan Wars have happened in the interceding years between Terra Prime and These are the Voyages... Riker and Troi, in the aftermath of Pegasus, play out a holonovel that depicts the events surrounding the Federation's decision to abandon cloaking technology as part of their treaty with Romulus and a condition of the founding of the Federation. Riker, suffering from guilt over the events in Pegasus and the original mutiny in that episode, is questioning whether the decision by the Federation was the right one so he and Troi revisit the original events surrounding the treaty through the use of the holonovel.

That's actually not so bad. If you have to shoe-horn TNG characters into it then that's not such a bad way to do it.


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RE: Oh, snap! OF COURSE! by Sennik @ 11:46:57 on Apr 11
    RE: Oh, snap! OF COURSE! by the fan with no name @ 12:37:16 on Apr 11
       RE: Oh, snap! OF COURSE! by Sennik @ 14:51:10 on Apr 11
Sounds Good, But by Jean-Luc @ 11:26:53 on Apr 11
    RE: Sounds Good, But by StillKirok @ 11:49:34 on Apr 11
       The problem with that by the fan with no name @ 12:35:32 on Apr 11
RE: Oh, snap! OF COURSE! by Beckett @ 10:41:21 on Apr 11

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By: Hbasm (Odo's file, contact) @ 03:47:05 on Apr 11, 2005

These covers are beautiful advertising and I hope they will increase the ratings for the final episodes. I'd say 6 million viewers are not unrealistic.

The interview is too weird. I thought it was supposed to peak people's curiosity about the last episode and remind us of the good old days. But they're not acting like it.


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RE: Advertising by Sullaban @ 14:30:02 on Apr 11
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RE: Advertising by Sennik @ 11:48:43 on Apr 11
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RE: Advertising by AstrocreepNX2112 @ 04:19:50 on Apr 11

Booooo!!! This stinks!!!! Berman and Braga strike again | Report this post to moderator
By: AstrocreepNX2112 (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:56:27 on Apr 10, 2005

The Enterprise didn't even get a proper series finale, they brought in these two... and I swear, with the number of times that Ms. Sirtis has been brought back for post TNG appearances, why don't they just give her her own show.

Why do Riker and Troi have to be in the series finale??? The series FINALE??? I don't blame Sirtis and Frakes for being enthusiastic and positive about this episode, they got paid for it.

They talk about Archer being "deified" in this episode. I like Bakula and the job he did with the material he was given, but to deify him is a bit un-natural. Kirk's legendary status was due in part to the fans response, and in part to the outline of the character itself. Kirk was Kirk, Archer was Archer, they're both completely different captains with completely different styles of command.

It doesn't seem like this is really much of a "Valentine for the fans", it's a big fat "fuck you to the fans". It's a cheap ending to a series that was rife with lazy and sloppy writing, gross miscalculations, and major tampering with a general template that worked for Star Trek.

Yeah, Sirtis and Frakes are happy, like I said, they got paid to do this. I hope that they're happy to have participated in the further destruction of Star Trek. I can't wait until Berman's contract fully expires, then maybe I'll lighten up a little bit. At the very least, I wish he would make an effort to try and understand Star Trek a little better since he was the one who was in charge of it.

Sirtis and Frakes are lucky to have gotten called in to do this, they certainly won't find an abundance of work doing anything else except maybe local theater in L.A., but even if their careers are on an upswing, I hope they never have anything to do with Star Trek again. I think that the least that we could have had with the series finale of Enterprise would be an episode with some real resolution where the cast of the series in question doesn't have to share screen time with a pair that have already had their moment in the sun.

I hope that people will boycott the sponsors of the series finale for a two week stretch, just so that a point may be made about putting garbage on television when they know better. This will help in this battle between the fans and the suits in making the point that we want original Star Trek, and not old racehorses that should have gone to the glue factory long ago, and this goes for actors as well as retreaded plots. I hope that the series finale has an all time low viewership. It's time for the franchise to move on. The only time I want to see Marina Sirtis anymore are in those topless photos from some film that she did some time ago. I certainly don't want to see Frakes topless, or bottomless, but if they ever do decide to do a Titan film, that would be the place for him, and perhaps Ms. Sirtis is on that ship as well.

This whole concept of the episode in question does not make me happy. It's wholly possible that I'll be surprised and actually enjoy it. I'm not going to hate it for the sake of hating it, but I do hate everything that I've heard about it so far. I don't feel it's right.

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Frakes and Sirtis just f***ing rock! | Report this post to moderator
By: motionblur (Odo's file, contact) @ 22:29:08 on Apr 10, 2005

It's great to see them back in action. Great interview!


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Well... | Report this post to moderator
By: Meglo (Odo's file, contact) @ 20:38:45 on Apr 10, 2005

Sounds like this was a great trip down memory lane for Frakes, Sirtis, Berman, and Braga, but what about the crew of the NX-01?

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Ha! | Report this post to moderator
By: spockster (Odo's file, contact) @ 19:39:16 on Apr 10, 2005

Now that was funny! I hope the last episode is as good as that interview.


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